Controllers too far away in VR

Not sure what the problem is or where to post this. I have the 8K+ with the index controllers. PiTools was updated and worked great. Now If I try to load a game in SteamVR my two controllers are very far away. I can turn them but I can not move them in or out. Like if I put my hands up to my face the controllers are still very far away. If I start a game from inside Pitools the controllers are too far away to point at the game. What steps do I need to take to troubleshoot this or does someone know how to fix this.

Have happened to me but long time ago, usaly simple restarted computer then it worked.

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Same thing, a long time ago in older pitools with vive wands. Had to make sure headset was powered on before pc was started.